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Monday, 24 March 2014

Schneider's Alley Research


 Schneider's Alley Research
 
This page features research on the people, stories and locations
associated with the "Schneider's Alley"  myth in South Australia.

 Dr Michael Schneider and Mrs Schneider had 4 children we are aware of three daughters, Anne Wendy, and Barbara, and one son Michael.

 If you have a new lead for us, a (verifiable) photo of Dr Schneider or a family member, or a photo of the gardens or garden parties, please email at Allen at eidolon@live.com.au
 

The Schneider Family
&
Clifton Manor

 We have gathered together some of the newspaper articles we have uncovered about the Doctor and his Family, as well as Clifton Manor and gardens .

 1852
‘Clifton’ House (1852) - 66 Hallett Road

The east end of High Street leads directly across Hallett Road into the driveway of ‘Clifton’, a large Gothic-style house built for George Deane Sismey (miller) in 1852. In 1872 it was bought by Nathaniel Knox (lawyer) who added a battlement tower and landscaped gardens. In 1934 the large estate was purchased by Dr Michael Schneider who kept kangaroos, emus and koalas in a large enclosure. In 1976 the estate was subdivided into over 100 allotments. The house now stands in Waratah Way. The hedge of ‘Clifton’ can be seen at 66 Hallett Road.

1934

The Mail

Saturday 11 August 1934

South Adelaide Club
The weekly run of the South Adelaide Horse Riding Club was held this afternoon to Stonyfell. The riders left Frewville and went through Linden
Park, Beaumont, and Burnside, thence through the properties of Dr. M. Schneider, Mr. R. Sims, and Stonyfell quarries and vineyards. Afternoon tea was served at Wattle Park. Those mounted were:- — Mrs. M. H. McKinnel on Bluebell, Miss Josephine Charllck en Streaky. Miss Rita Idle on Oxford Style. Miss Lorn a Williams on Billie Miss Marjorie Wil liams on Ranee. Miss Lily Macdonald on Sue. Miss Margaret Macdonald on Creamy. Miss Edna McDonald on Michael. Miss Margherita TilIett on Rine Up. Messrs. Rex Bastian on Benaserie. Mr. Hugh Coulter on Winn Palm, Mr. Howard Cashman on Lancer.
 
1937

The Advertiser

Tuesday 20 June 1933

WEDDING
Schneider — Parker
On Saturday, at St. Matthew's Church of England. Hamilton, Dr. Michael Schneider, of Adelaide, and Miss Margaret Parker, of Wales, England, were married by the Rev. A. E. Kain, of Kapunda.
The bridegroom is the fourth son of Mrs. and the late Mr. Ernst Schneider, of Stockwell, and the bride the elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Garret! Parker, of Gellygaer, Wales.
As the bride entered the church with Mr. Herbert Jory. of Adelaide, she presented a graceful figure, gowned in her lovely frock designed in London and made on Empire lines, of white crepe suede and trimmed with diamanté. The veil was or tulle, and trimmed with orange blossom. The bride carried a bouquet of pink carnations. Her attendant maid. Miss Tillie Steinert, of St. Kitts. Truro. wore a frock of Dale blue chiffon velvet, with picture hat to tone, and carried a bouquet of pale pink and blue sweet peas. The bridegroom was supported by his younger brother, Mr. William Schneider, as best man.
The 'Wedding March' and 'The Voice That Brea'hed O'er Eden' were rendered by the organist and choir. After the ceremony the party motored to the country home of the bridegroom's mother, at Stockwell.
 
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Monday 12 April 1937
 "Old Cop"
A TALL, slim man, most interesting, man with penetrating eyes, a slight stoop, and a remarkable fund of anecdotes, known among his personal friends as "old Cop"—to be respectful, and give him his proper name, Copley Playford, a former Resident Administrator at Darwin - takes his lunch at King William street Balfour's daily. He spent most of his life in the Territory and "could a tale unfold."
A tale! A bookful of them. And he does tell them, too. Watch the other diners—Mr. H. Tassie, M.L.C, and his colleague Hermann Homburg, Reg Laughton, Leo Seppelt, Rudi Buring, Milton Lester, Jimmy Hendry, Dr. Michael Schneider, and H. Krawinkel bend their heads forward so that they will not miss any of the titbits which "Cop" distributes.
He has not yet reached the evening of life, and has a lot of go in him in spite of his 70 odd, not out. Last year he went down to the Port to look at the ships. Took a fancy to a wind-jammer, climbed on board, and the next he knew of it was that he was making for Cape Horn. His only log page were a toothbrush, and collar stud.
His brother-in-law is the well-known Jim Cowling, of Norton's Summit. Who does not know Jim? His son. Dr. Cowling, is president of Mount Pleasant Show.

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Wednesday 29 September 1937

S.A. FOREST LEAGUE FORMED
Will Seek Regeneration Of Large Areas
A South Australian branch of the Australian Forest League was formed last night at a meeting at the Chamber of Manufactures.
Before Mr. David Fulton was elected president. Mr. George McEwin explained that the aim of the league was to work in co-operation with the Tree Lovers' Society and kindred bodies, to advance the idea of protecting our natural forests from further deterioration, and to encourage the Government to regenerate large areas. Mr. Fulton said that it was hoped to form branches in country towns. An advisory committee would be appointed to help in the selection of suitable trees. Professor J. B. Cleland spoke of the necessity of preserving the remnants of native vegetation on the Adelaide Plains and in the hills, the retention of belts of native trees along roadsides, and the planting of wayside trees; the importance of tackling the mistletoe problem, and saving from destruction the mulga and myall trees. Mr. A. D. Hardy, formerly of the Forestry Department of Victoria, and a member of the league branch in that States gave an illustrated talk on
afforestation and trees in various parts of the world.
Officers elected: —Patron. His Excellency the Governor; vice-patron. Sir William Sowden: president. Mr. David Fulton; vice presidents. Sir Douglas Mawson. Sir Henry Newland. Sir Robert Chapman. Professor Cleland. Captain S. A. White, and Mr. G. McEwin;
general committee. Sir William Mitchell. Dr. Michael Schneider. Messrs. J. H. Gosse, Gill Williams. A. K. Newbery. R. H. Martin and E. H. Ising;
Honorary treasurer. Mr. C. Colquhoun:
Honorary secretary. Mr. Donald Neill:
Ladies' Committee. Mrs. B. Mehrtens (convener).

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1938

The Advertiser

Friday 25 February 1938

"Out Among the People" 
  By Vox

  I WENT along to a meeting of the Australian Forestry League presided over by Colonel David Fulton, the other night, and realised what a lot of useful service it can render to this State.
  For example, Mr. George McEwin declared that every arterial road in South Australia should be lined with avenues of trees.
Dr. Michael Schneider spoke about! the new Crown lands being opened for allotment in the upper South-East, and suggested that a proviso should be put  in the lease to the effect that a certain area should be retained as timbered land to provide shelter, beautify the countryside, and prevent erosion.
  "Professor Corbin often used to tell me that where erosion has taken place In the higher rainfall areas, if farmers would only broadcast seeds at a suitable time of the year, young trees would spring up. and soon bind the soil together again.' Mr. McEwin said.
He incidentally mentioned that Mr. H. de N. Lucas, at Myponga. and Mr. Frank Verco. at Tintinara, were doing good work in tree planting.
Mr. McEwin also spoke of the splendid efforts of a local cobbler at Gisbome. between Melbourne and Mount Macedon. where for three or four miles east and west of the township the main street is lined with beautiful elms. The Forestry League intends to try and organise branches in country towns here. That is a splendid idea.
Trees And Birds
TALKING about street beautification. Colonel Fulton recommended every body to go along Victoria avenue, Unley Park, to see the magnificent shady plane trees, which had not been touched, although electric and telephone wires passed through them.
In places the swaying branches had worn the lining off the electric wires.
Mr. McEwin cited a case at a North Adelaide house where blackbirds had taken the coveting off electric wires. A painter happened to touch a bare wire, got a shock, and, falling, brought down a fair share of bougainvillea creeper with him.
Dr. Schneider raised an interesting point. He said that every year at late winter at Burnside he hangs up big lumps of string refuse and material in suitable places, and the birds queue up to take it away for their nests.
That reminded Mr. McEwin to tell us that on one hot day at Kuitpo forest he and some friends filled two buckets with water. Within a quarter of an hour there must have been 300 to 400 birds round them. First the tomtits, waxbills. and other small varieties had a drink, and at the finish the magpies and other big birds came along.
Let us plant plenty of trees, which attract the birds, which keep down the pests!
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Monday 26 December 1938

"Out Among the People" 
  By Vox

In A Burnside Garden on Saturday Leo Seppelt and I went up to spend the afternoon with Dr. Michael Schneider at "Clifton," Burnside, known for years as the home of the Knox family.
From the wooded heights one gets a fine view of the plains and the gulf. And what a restful environment!
We wandered down the shady gully, and admired the English, and exotic trees and lawns, all luxuriant in the rich moist soil. A plane tree there is the biggest in South Australia, according to the opinion of the late J. P. Bailey, former Director of the Adelaide Botanic Garden.
 Keen Nature lover, as well as a keen botanist, Dr. Schneider encourages the birds to frequent this fine estate over looking the city.
Cleaning up the undergrowth at the bottom of the gully, he told us the gardener found a banded landrail's nest with four eggs in it. These were put under a bantam, which hatched them out
We had the good fortune to see a mistletoe bird energetically searching for food in the trees. This bird is so small that it easily escapes attention. We also saw the black-cheeked honey eater, and the spine billed honey eater; these are particularly keen on the nectar in the Chinese lantern, ( the abutiloni flowers): saw many parrots, bronze wing pigeons, and Indian pigeons.

Miniature Zoo
"Clifton," Dr. Schneider has a miniature zoo. In a tall eucalypt we saw koala bears sleepily perched on tree forks.
A vermin-proof netting fence surrounds 30 acres, and in this enclosure are pairs of the Kangaroo Island. scrub, and red kangaroos, emus, Cape Barron geese, curlews, plover, fallow deer, English pheasants, peacocks, guinea fowls, ibis, a Pacific gull (which had crab for Christmas dinner), and a brolga (Native Companion).
It was feeding time, and animals and birds congregated near each other. They enjoyed the meat, wheat, maize, bran and pollard. No wonder they are in such good condition!
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Thursday 20 October 1938

Annual Wild Flower Show Tomorrow

Consignments of wild flowers, including about 500 waratahs from New South Wales, and 'kangaroo-paws' from Western Australia, will arrive tomorrow
for the annual Wild Flower Show and Natural History Exhibition which will be opened by the Commissioner of Crown Lands (Mr. Playford) at the Town Hall tomorrow night. The show which is being arranged by the field naturalists' section of the Royal Society, will be open from 2:30pm. tomorrow, and will be continued on Saturday from 9 am. to 10 pm.
A party of field naturalists visited Humbug Scrub yesterday and collected various wild flowers, including orchids, which will be exhibited at the show. Another party will visit Mount Lofty today for other wild flowers.
  There will be a large variety of exhibits. including shells and tropical flowers from Darwin, coral and giant clams from the Barrier Reef, collections of minerals and crystals, polished native timbers, paintings by the late Miss Rosa Fiveash to be loaned by the National Gallery, native weapons, and churingas, and a competitive display of wild flower by schools, chiefly from the hills districts. 
Dr. Michael Schneider will exhibit a Queensland koala bear. Professor J. B. Cleland will show tiny ground flora. Captain S. A. White will exhibit a collection of birds, the Malacological Societv will display land, freshwater, and! marine shells, and two aborigines— Clarrie Long and Mark Wilson— will give a display of native craft work.  Mr. B. C. Cotton, of the S.A. Museum, is in charge of the show arrangements
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 1939

 The Advertiser

 Friday 17 March 1939
Garden Inspection
  A sanctuary for native birds and animals is a feature of the beautiful garden of Clifton, home of Dr M Schneider, at Burnside, which will be open for inspection on Saturday and Sunday April 1 and 2. Proceeds will be for the St. David's Church building fund Burnside
Trams will leave Grenfell street at 2.46 p.m., 3.10 p.m.. and 3 34 p m. on both days. Motor cars will meet these trams and take passengers to the garden which is situated at the end of High street. ,

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1940

 The Mail
Saturday 7 September 1940
Garden Posters
R. M. Schneider, of Clifton, Burnside, has offered to open the delights of his garden and its inhabitants — emus, Kangaroos, wallabies, and koala bears — to the public on September 28 and 29. This kind of 'Alice in an Australian Wonderland'' party is designed to help the funds of the Kindergarten Union of South Australia. Students of the Kindergarten College and of the South Australian School of Arts and Crafts are designing posters illustrating a delightful garden setting, which will be displayed in Adelaide. A prize has been offered for the best poster. Entries close on September 17.
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The Advertiser

Thursday 26 September 1940
Garden Inspection
On Saturday and Sunday Afternoons
  The garden of Dr. and Mrs. M. Schneider will be open for inspection, and Boy Scouts will act as guides from the Burnside tram. Cool drinks, tea and biscuits will be available. At 4 p.m. a bell is rung at which the kangaroos, deer, emus, and birds all come rushing to be fed. The Kindergarten College and Lucy Morice Kindergarten will benefit from the proceeds.
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1946
 
 
 The Mail
 
Saturday 9 November 1946
 
 
Garden Party At Private Zoo
THERE are a number of attractions billed for the garden party at the home of Dr. Michael Schneider at Burnside next Saturdav afternoon.
Afternoon tea will be served, and there will be cool drinks and afternoon tea. Children will love feeding time at Dr. Schneider's private zoo. which consists of emus, koala bears, and kangaroos. Cars will meet the trams at the Burnside Post Office and drive people to the function, which will begin at 3 p.m. Proceeds will assist the Y.W.C.A
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The Advertiser
 
Monday 18 November 1946
Garden Inspection For Y.W.C JL
The YWCA National Fund will be increased by almost £70 as a result of a garden inspection held at the home of Dr. Michael Schneider, Burnside, on Saturday afternoon. The 500 visitors roamed among the large grounds, and at 4 pm. watched the kangaroos, emus and koalas being fed. The chairman of the Central Regional Committee -Mrs. Robert Crompton and a number of YWCA helpers arranged the party. Afternoon tea and ices were available, and there was a trading table.
 
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1947
 

The Advertiser

 
Thursday 10 April 1947
Garden Party And Fete
To celebrate the 90th anniversary of St. Bartholomew's Church, Norwood, a garden party and fete will be opened by the Bishop of Adelaide (the Right Rev. B. P. Robin) in the charming garden of Dr. Michael Schneider, at Clifton. High street, Burnside, at 3 pm on Saturday. There will be stalls for cakes, produce, 'women's work, cool drinks and afternoon tea, and sideshows and special playground facilities for children will be added attractions. A free bus will meet the Burnside trams at the Burnside Post Office between 2 pm. and 3 pm., returning at 5 pm. and 6 pm.
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Monday 14 April 1947

Out Among The People
By VOX
I WAS up on the heights at "Clifton," Burnside, on Saturday afternoon, and seeing Stonyfell quarry a few hundred yards up the tree-clad hill recalled the days when John Crompton used to show me nice quartz crystals from there. After his extensive travels abroad, I can understand why a restful old-world mansion, incidentally bearing the Knox coat of arms, should appeal to Dr. Michael Schneider and his Welsh wife. The Bishop of Adelaide opened a fete in connection with St. Bartholomew's Church 90th anniversary, and apologised for being late. He saw a lot of cars inside "Clifton" entrance gates, took the wrong turning, and found he was among the National Council of Women. Among the large crowd at the fete was the Rev. F. J. Price, rector from 1914 to 1921.

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1952

 Saturday 21 June 1952
PARISH BALL
Still another successful parish ball ran a cheery course last night. Friends and parishioners of St Theodore's. Rose Park, filled Burnside Town Hall. The Bishop of Adelaide (Rt. Rev B P. Robin) and Mrs. Robin were among guests welcomed by Archdeacon and Mrs; T. T. Reed. Mrs. Robin wore flame moire taffeta; Mrs. Reed's turquoise chiffon sparkled with sequins. Her daughter Airlie went to the dance from the debutante ball at Mount Osmond. .Mrs. Michael Schneider used the colours of the church flag in the spectacular stage decor of silvered leaves, red and cream flowers against a black velvet curtain. Barber striped candles, autumn strawberry leaves, and cumquats were original decorations for supper tables. Miss Kathleen Williams was among young people at the dance. Her frock was cerise moire taffeta with a silver kid belt. In her party were her sister. Betty. Misses Mary Drewer. Anne Schneider. Messrs. John Warner. Geoffrey Sexton. Ian Knox. and Ross Tilley.
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1953

The Advertiser

Tuesday 24 March 1953
May 13 will be an exciting day for Mrs. Michael Schneider, of Burnside. She will sail in the Strathnaver for England to revisit relatives whom she has not seen for several years.
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The Advertiser

 
 Saturday 2 May 1953

Debut At Clifton Hall
Clifton Hall, Burnside, home of Dr. and Mrs. Michael Schneider, was brilliantly floodlit for their daughter Anne's big coming-out dance last night. Silver carnations encrusted with rhinestones decorated Anne's French needle-run net frock, which had a bustle and a softly draped stole. Mrs. Schneider, who was hostess to 300 guests, pinned orchids and tuberoses to her powder blue Chantilly lace frock. Younger daughter, Wendy, wore sky blue net sprigged with pink flowers, and her sister, Barbara, was in apple green embroidered organdie. Their cousin, Irene Schneider, wore rose pink net em bossed in silver. Mrs. Schneider, Wendy, Barbara and son Michael joined in the debutante
waltz which Anne began with her father and finished with Mr. John Warner. Large gold urns filled with flowers decorated the marquee, silver leaves trailed over a trellis and flower baskets hung from the top of the marquee poles. Guests, who included several family friends, drank toasts to Anne and also to her mother and Mrs. Malcolm Miller. The two will travel together to England this month. Among a crowd of Alice's young friends were Misses Patricia Playford, Janice McLachlan, Jennifer Harry, Rosemary Gross, Messrs. John OKeefe. Robert Allnut, Ross Tilly and Robert Temme.
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 Tuesday 6 October 1953
Rural News In Brief
BLIND SOCIAL
The Church of England Guild of Service to the Blind will entertain blind members and children from Townsend
House at the annual social at Dr. Michael Schneider's wild life sanctuary at Burn side on October 17.
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Tuesday 15 December 1953
CAROLS
Dr. and Mrs. Michael Schneider will have their traditional Christmas Eve party at Clifton Hall, Burn side. Guests will arrive at 8 p.m., Norwood Band will play on. the terraced garden in lantern light, and every one will join in carol singing. Again, according to custom, Mrs. Schneider will include mince pies on the menu, made from ah old English recipe.

Saturday 26 December 1953
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- SOCIAL NEWS
U.K. Visitor's First Christmas In S.A.
English visitor Mr. Jack Pennington, who arrived at the week-end, was intrigued with his first Christmas party away from home.
'With his sister, Mjss Hilda Pennington, who was a guest of Dr. and Mrs. Michael Schneider at a Christmas carol singing party in their garden at Clifton Hall, Burnside. Guests sat on a softly lit terraced lawn while the Norwood Band played by lantern light. After the carol singing Dr. and Mrs. Schneider gave the bandsmen a traditional Christmas drink. Then the guests went inside for supper.

Fishnet Stole
Mrs. Schneider covered her shoulders of her slim black frock with a black fishnet stole lined with downy white. Among guests' were: — The Dean of Adelaide (Very Rev. T. T. Reed), Mrs. Reed and their daughters, Airlie and Elaine, the Rev. and Mrs. Rex. Harley and Rev. and Mrs. S. Mainstone with their families, Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Jory, Mrs. Cecil Emery, Mr. Arthur Owen, another English visitor
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 1954
 
 
The Advertiser
 
Thursday 8 July 1954
 
 
About People
 
Misses Wendy and Barbara Schneider will be the two youngest dancers to take part in the Lancers at the Adelaide Hunt Club ball tomorrow night. They will have dinner with their parents. Dr. and Mrs Michael Schneider, of Clifton Hall Burnside, who have arranged a party be forehand at the South Australian Hotel. Their other daughter Anne has invited young friends in for drinks and savouries at Burnside.
 
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The Mail
 
  Saturday 23 October 1954
 
Square dance
 
IN the spacious garden at Clifton Hall. Burnside, home of Dr. and Mrs. Michael Schneider. Selwyn Harley tonight celebrated his twenty-first birthday. Selwyn's parents, the Rev. and Mrs. R. R. Harley, of Toorak Gardens, entertained 50 guests. There were square dancing, games and competitions, community singing to accordion music, a treasure hunt, and a big barbecue.
Anne and Michael Harley helped to entertain friends of their brother, who is secretary of the Racing Drivers' Association.  Other guests included Joan Kimber. Pamela Trudgen, Anne ,Wendy, and Barbara Schneider, Audrey Bannister Daphne Gower. Joy Wilson, Beth and Pamela Canham, Maureen Snell. Lynette Holbrook. Pamela Hood, Maureen Critchley. Nola Gates, Graham Scarman. David Ellis, Neil Bannister. Allan Moore, Robert Scrymgour. Keith Hutton, Maurice Rayner. Ronald Harris, Gerald Norton. Tom Kelner, and Bob Dodson.
 
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The Advertiser
 
Friday 17 December 1954
 
keeping up a quaint tradition,
 
Dr. and Mrs. Michael Schneider are looking for a dark man to cross their threshold after midnight on New Year's Eve. They have asked friends to see the new year in with them at Clifton Hall, Burnside, and wait for a 'dark man' to bring them good luck through 1955.
 
 
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Eidolon Investigation - Schneider's Alley -SA ( Various Years)


Schneider's Alley

Location: South Australia

Location type: Various

Location status: Public walkway & Private Property
 
WARNING
 
This location is closed between 10pm and 5am by a council enforced curfew.
Anyone found in Michael Perry Reserve and St  Andrews Walk between these times can face fines of up to $5000 



Eidolon Paranormal first investigated Schneider's Alley in 2009 and we have been back many times since. During our investigations, we have found no anomalous data to indicate a haunting, we did, however uncover a great deal of information about the very generous Dr Schneider, which we will be sharing with you here very soon ...
 
 
Below we present some of the Urban Legends and Myths surrounding 
the Alley, the Park, and Clifton Manor... and reveal some truths about the Good Doctor...

Eidolon Paranormal presents 
The Urban legend of "Andrew's Walk" and "Schneider's Alley"


                                                                   

 

  The Legend grows


The legends and myths abound concerning Schneider's Alley, from mass murders, pedophilia, witchcraft, black masses and a mad doctor doing experiments on children. The stories are bastardisations of other South Australian locales,murders and mysteries that have been warped and misplaced into the local Stonyfell folklore. All of the legends can be traced easily to actual events that have happened in the surrounding suburbs. Through misquotes, fabrications and Chinese whispers, these stories have been brought together and told as one story. Eidolon Paranormal decided to get too the facts before investigating this location for a possible haunting, our research began with a quick internet search (the results of which are posted below) which made us question the legitimacy of further investigating, our passion for knowledge and answers won over and we decided to follow through and investigate the locales named.
Below are a few of the fabrications, legends and misrepresentations concerning Schneider's - all found online.

WARNING

URBAN LEGENDS BELOW
The stories below can all be found on various boards and blogs on the internet, they
are not the experiences of Eidolon Paranormal, nor do we validate them as actually occurring.


warning explicit language

The coloured segments below are direct quotes from other websites concerning the Alley, they are quoted "as Is" from their respective websites. They are not the views of Eidolon Paranormal.

 "schniders alley (however its spelt). Its the place in adelaide hills, where urban legend has it, satan worshippers go to have their whatever meets."

Nissan EXA Forums:
"Guys I'm new to this site and forum. In fact let me admit that I have no EXA or NX..
So the moderator can kick me out or whatever but before that happens.. I must say I couldnt go past this topic.. So I will help you out with a few haunted places my friends and I know about.

There is a "Schneiders Alley" near Kensington. It is a haunted forrest (between Stonyfell and Cleland). Ive been there 4 times and on 2 occasions weird stuff.. i mean very weird stuff has happened.

It is believed that in the 1800s a doctor had a place in the forrest where he treated patients. Apparently a demon possessed him to kill his wife kids and many of his visiting patients before killing himself. That is where the name Schneiders Alley originated..

However... such incident has never been reported - perhaps because it was too early for technology to document such a happening.

On the otherhand, there has been reports as early as the 1930s that a fireman who lost his footing on a cliff edge was burnt alive in the forrest. His Ghost is said to roam the forrests and even haunt a restaurant near by known as the Waterfall Gully Restaurant.

The first time i went there, with 2 friends.. We came to an old painted sign to the right of the path. The sign was creaking as its post was moving from side to side.. There was not enough wind (if any at all) to be moving the sign like this..

The 2nd and 3rd time nothing happened at all.. But it is still pretty spooky.. Both these times there was a group of about 15... We noticed a bunch of emos doing a cult or some weird stuff there.. could of been a weegy boared but not sure...

The 4th time however was by far the scariest visits..
I had gone there with a mate and 2 girls.. mainly to get a blowjob. However we did not even get to the forrest.. we were walking through the entry to the forrest which is also dark and in autumn covered with dried leaves...

When you step on the dried leaves you could hear your footsteps.. But my friend told me to stop as he heared excessive footsteps.. For example he said "Stop! did you hear that?"
"Hear what," one of the girls replied.
"It sounds like someone is walking with us.. There is no way only us 4 can be making those footstep sounds..," My friend replied again

The girls and even i thought my friend was trying to creep me out..
I tried to listen out for more footsteps as I could tell my friend was getting nervous and he actually meant it... but i did not hear any additional footstep noises..

10 metres down the path... my friend yelled out stop again.. Everyone froze almost immideatly.. For a second or 2 after we stopped.. We heard footsteps stopping right behind one of the girls... I mean about 1 metre behind her..

Shone the torch straight away.. nothing... We looked ahead and saw a transparent ghost in mid-air... about 3 feet from the ground looking right at us... He had a firemans helmet on and missing eyes...

The girls had screamed and already started running back to civilisation.. My friend and I looked in disbelief.. We have never seen anything paranormal and freaky like this.. I was in shock i couldnt move or talk.. My friend who was a body builder started yelling swear word out of fear"

The ghost had light blue electric flames all around it and pointed at us...
He said in the most fkn freakiest voice which i have never heard before...

"Leave thy forrest and you shall never return"

I would be lying if i didnt say i pissed myself cos i did.. My heart was beating 100mph..
and we ran so fast we ran past the girls and to the car.. We dont like talking about what happened.. especially the 2 girls..

We have never returned since that night in 2006" - Levendi - Nissan exa forum


"we heard rustling in the bushes and a scary ass growling, we thought S&*T security dogs and we ran as fast as we could, strange thing was that the sound of whatever was chasing us was constantly JUST behind us all the way to the fence where we pretty much jumped over / through the fence but as soon as we were on the other side there was no sign of anything.
6 people were there and we all heard/felt the same thing."


"OMG, went there last night, it was absolutely f#$ked! There was a group of people chanting further in the forest... we kept on walking and there was what sounded like drums or something to that effect....

we heard something in the bushes, and saw a branch had snapped on a tree, so we ran the f&%k out of there.

I am never going back to that f#$%ing forrest, it is most definitely haunted."


As you can see from the stories above, the alley's myth continues to grow with a constant influx of thrill seekers and young people trying to impress their friends with macho bravado, with little regard for the trespassing signs.
 Most that enter take the myths as truth and don't bother looking into the facts, most of which are easily accessible.
Below we present what has been documented about the area and Dr Schneider himself

                                




 
The area behind this fence is private property. Entering without prior consent is a criminal act and can result in fines and gaol time.
We at Eidolon Paranormal recommend you always seek prior permission (in writing) before entering any privately owned site or building - haunted or not.


                                      

Investigation results
Is Schneider's Alley haunted? In our opinion, most likely not...
 The story is a bastardisation of other local stories and legends blended into a new urban legend. Yes, Dr Schneider did exist, but from all accounts he was a nice man who started an animal sanctuary and gave something back to his community.
 There were murders in the area, in a street nearby, a body was found dismembered and stored in a freezer in the late 90's - could this be where the murder stories come from? (this story is yet to be verified)
 The "Blue Ghost" can easily be attributed to the nearby "Waterfall Gully ghost", that haunts the restaurant and surrounding forest of waterfall gully, one suburb over.
Other stories are often drug induced visions told by young teens trying to scare their girlfriends and posting said story online, then other people quoting from the story as truth without bothering to research the subject, many stories are misconstrued whispers passed down from one generation to another, the "Schneider's Alley" story is one that has spanned almost 40 years in Adelaide.

We gained permission to enter behind the fenced area and conduct an investigation using our equipment. We obtained no results or photographic evidence to suggest any kind of haunting or paranormal phenomena is occurring in this location. 

                                  

 

 Clifton Manor was built in 1850 by C.D. Sismey after acquiring the estate from Harry Osbourne.
The house was added to by Nathenial Cox in 1872 - the manor was passed onto the nephew of Mr Knox in 1926. the nephew, Harloe Knox, who subdivided estate and sold of approximately 50 acres of land.
 The original driveway and gates are still standing and now mark the entrance to Andrews walk on Hallet rd Stoneyfell - Clifton Manors entrance being moved to Waratah way.
The manor then was sold (with approx. 40 acres of land) to Mr Hermen Hoeper - who in 1934 sold it Dr Schneider. Dr Schneider then established a wildlife sanctuary on the surrounding 40 acres (of which most is now a park)

                                                                              

Dr. Schneider
Dr Michael Schneider acquired Clifton Manor in 1934. He lived in the house with his wife from this point on until his death in the 1970's.
Dr Schneider established a native wildlife and bird sanctuary on the 40 acres of land he owned behind Clifton manor, which included a Koala enclosure. After enlisting in the Australian Medical corps in World War 2, Dr Schneider closed the sanctuary and released the koalas back into the wild. His remaining animals were donated to the Adelaide Zoo.
There is no records of murders, rapes or anything sinister ever happening in the grounds of Clifton Manor. It is reported Dr Schneider died at his home in the 1970's. The house and land was then bought by T and G mutual life society and subdivided into the current format of streets, parks and housing found today.
We are continuing our research into Dr Schneider life and the history of the local area, as we find new information we will post it here.
If you have any information, references or know of anyone who knew Dr. Schneider personally we would love to hear from you. It is our goal to present the truth about Dr Schneider and the surrounded area.
Please contact Allen at Allen@eidolonparanormal.net

                                                                  

Local legends
These are the local legends we believe have been attributed to the Alley in one way or another.

Stories from the local area that may be intertwined with the Dr Schneider story, thus creating the urban legend of Schneider's alley...
 Lisa's house: A house only a few streets from Clifton manor where a young girl was allegedly raped and tortured by "Bikies" and then set on fire - there is no newspaper reports of such an act ever happening in South Australia.
Waterfall Gully: Waterfall Gully restaurant has a sign in its car park reporting the sighting of a local "blue fireman" ghost. Reportedly, this spectre appears in the local area. A fireman fell from a cliff whilst fighting a fire in the gully and fell to his death, it is said he never left.

                                                                                                                                           

References

Research conducted by Allen Tiller and Loz Gabrieel

Thank You

We would like to thank Mr Andrew Ward of Burnside city council for his assistance with information about Clifton Manor and Dr Schneider.

Files about the manor can be obtained through the Adelaide public library.
Documentation written by Donald Bourne of Paradise - available at Tea Tree Gully library
Links

                                                                                                                       




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